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Omni-SciencePosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 14:47
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Edward L WinstonPosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 15:13
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Nothing to debunk.

More information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment</p>

We did this in school.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 17:56
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What are the implications of this?

Sidebar: I don't understand any of this. Computer doesn't have sound at the moment so I can't watch the video... Why do you want it to be debunked?

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 17:57
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I'm not sure of any implications from the conspiracy world.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 19:53
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This is from "What the BLEEP do we know?"

So I assumed that it was somehow BS. Either all, partially, or taken out of context, etc.

But I'm no physicist, so I turn to the people here.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 19:58
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Dr. Quantum isn't pseudoscience, but he (like other real stuff) is used in that shitty movie What the bleep do we know. Sort of like how CNN is a news channel, but because it's used in Alex Jones films doesn't make Anderson Cooper a CT.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 20:04
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:O

So, Dr. Quantum and his 'lessons' are taken into the wrong context to support the BS movie.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 20:05
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One of the theories I heard for the outcome of the experiment was that the reflection of photons potentially collapse the wave function and thus produce the matter pattern. But it doesn't explain why the electron still exhibits the probability- wave function.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 20:05
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Yes, his lessons are actually really good, you should check out more of them (provided they're not wrapped in new age bullshit).

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Omni-SciencePosted: Sep 04, 2010 - 20:08
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Fuck, I hate physics. Chemistry/Biology FTW

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duncanlecombrePosted: Sep 05, 2010 - 01:34
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I'm confused I watched the link and it seemed like a physics lesson, with no real explanation at the end just observation. What is it your trying to debunk? The comments make me think they used this in some other video like how zeitgeist just took parts of the movie "The Network" and you are asking me to debunk "The network".

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Omni-SciencePosted: Sep 05, 2010 - 16:03
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I debunked the very ending of this.

I was trying to see if anything in the lesson in the link wasn't true, and I believe I found something.

At the end of the lesson, Dr. Quantum said the electron acted differently as if it was 'aware' it was 'being watched'.

Actually, by 'observing', you shined particles (light) at it, which apparently collapses the wave function (I think, I could very well be wrong, my physics sucks horridly)

My source,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KGS1Ro-sc

Pay attention at about 5:10

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Sep 05, 2010 - 16:53
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But it talks about that afterward Omni, it's just a way to explain it and to talk about how unusual it is, it doesn't claim that the electron can actually know, see, or sense anything. Like I said, there's nothing to debunk, especially not analogies. The video is fine, it's not meant for physics students, but young people, so they have to explain things in a manner which isn't that complicated, and saying "as if" is still not the same thing as saying "is," it's not stating a fact, it's stating an analogy to later explain a fact.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Sep 05, 2010 - 17:08
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I see....

Thank you, I had the wrong idea, and was therefore wrong. :P

Wait a minute, I can do something PJM can't! Accept wrongness!

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duncanlecombrePosted: Sep 05, 2010 - 21:41
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Oh so you thought that the video was saying particals were aware of their surroundings?????????
I didn't really take that from it but I could understand how that could be percived that way.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Sep 06, 2010 - 08:56
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I think that BS movie was implying that...

Or not.

I should probably watch it first, before I start trying to debunk anything. :3

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sorryPosted: Sep 06, 2010 - 11:24
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The movie ends with the guy saying the electron's behavior changed upon observation. I think this is best suited for a science class intro that segues into a scientific explanation.

The electron's behavior changes because photons bounce off the observer and onto the electron, correct?

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Sep 06, 2010 - 13:24
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Yes, aaron, and in fact this is the major hold up with quantum computing as well.

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sorryPosted: Sep 06, 2010 - 14:32
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Maybe if we all closed our eyes, crazy shit would happen.

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